Legislature(2013 - 2014)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/10/2013 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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SENATE BILL NO. 88                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  authorizing the state bond  committee to issue                                                                    
     certificates   of   participation    to   finance   the                                                                    
     construction  and equipping  of residential  housing to                                                                    
     serve  the  Anchorage  campus   of  the  Alaska  Native                                                                    
     Medical  Center;  and  authorizing  the  Department  of                                                                    
     Administration   to   enter   into   a   lease-purchase                                                                    
     agreement for  the benefit of the  Alaska Native Tribal                                                                    
     Health Consortium."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:22:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PETE  KELLY, SPONSOR, addressed  the bill.  He spoke                                                                    
to increased costs  in Medicaid. He pointed  to the Medicaid                                                                    
task force  who made some recommendations  and initiated the                                                                    
conversation   about   containing    Medicaid   costs.   One                                                                    
recommendation  was  to  move   people  who  were  utilizing                                                                    
Medicaid  services while  eligible  for  Tribal Health  into                                                                    
hospitals eligible for Tribal  Health grants that reimbursed                                                                    
at 100  percent. With  Medicaid, the  state paid  50 percent                                                                    
and  Medicaid paid  50 percent.  The bill  incentivized care                                                                    
for  hospitals   that  pay   100  percent.   The  department                                                                    
estimated   an   $8.8   million   saving   per   year   with                                                                    
implementation of the legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze asked  about a  direct appropriation  or a                                                                    
bond. Senator  Kelly replied that  the net savings  would be                                                                    
$8.8  million per  year. He  furthered that  the bill  would                                                                    
bond  for  the  Alaska   Native  Medical  Center  (ANMC)  in                                                                    
Anchorage for  housing of patients  that would  then receive                                                                    
100  percent grant  funding  from  Medicaid. He  anticipated                                                                    
even greater savings with time.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:25:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  pointed to construction  opportunities for                                                                    
the capital side  of the issue and savings  on the operating                                                                    
side. Senator Kelly affirmed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER SHATTUCK, STAFF, SENATOR  PETE KELLY, explained that                                                                    
the state  was responsible  for multiple pieces  when paying                                                                    
Medicaid.  The  populations  with high-risk  pregnancies  in                                                                    
rural  areas  benefitted  greatly.  She  believed  that  the                                                                    
cultural aspect  would incentivize  Alaska natives  who were                                                                    
Medicaid eligible  to utilize  the facility.  The facility's                                                                    
lease was  15 years  long and required  a memorandum  of the                                                                    
state.  The  legislation  would increase  access  to  tribal                                                                    
facilities,  which  was  in  part  contingent  on  expanding                                                                    
housing abilities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze requested department testimony.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:30:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  STREUR,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH  AND                                                                    
SOCIAL SERVICES,  discussed his involvement in  the bill. He                                                                    
stated that approximately 40 percent  of state services were                                                                    
delivered within  the tribal system.  The consequence  was a                                                                    
50  percent reimbursement  for 60  percent of  services. The                                                                    
discussion  evolved  cooperatively  with Tribal  Health  who                                                                    
determined the  greatest needs  of tribal  members. Maternal                                                                    
and child health was deemed the greatest need.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Streur  pointed  out   that  the  state  spent                                                                    
approximately  $1 million  per year  for each  of the  first                                                                    
three  years  for  a  challenged   birth.  He  mentioned  an                                                                    
immunodeficient  baby  whose  prescriptions alone  cost  $36                                                                    
thousand per month. One proposal  was to bring rural mothers                                                                    
into urban  areas for prenatal  services. He  projected $1.9                                                                    
million for increased deliveries  per year within the native                                                                    
system.  He   added  that   operating  room   expansion  was                                                                    
projected to cost $595 thousand.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Streur commented on  the abundance of ear, nose                                                                    
and throat problems occurring in  rural areas, which if left                                                                    
untreated  could lead  to permanent  damage to  children and                                                                    
their ability to be fully  productive citizens. The proposal                                                                    
was for increased medical capabilities  for those issues. He                                                                    
added  that  prenatal  outpatient  capacity  would  save  $1                                                                    
million per year  and the increased day  capacity would save                                                                    
$600  thousand per  year. The  total estimate  was for  $3.8                                                                    
million in  Medicaid savings  per year as  an offset  to the                                                                    
Tribal Health facility.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:34:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Streur discussed  telemedicine capabilities. He                                                                    
noted that the telemedicine  program at Alaska Native Tribal                                                                    
Health  Consortium (ANTHC)  provided  a  national model.  He                                                                    
believed that the performance measures  would be included in                                                                    
the memorandum of agreement.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:35:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman asked if the  facility would be located in                                                                    
Anchorage.  Commissioner Streur  replied  yes, the  facility                                                                    
would be  located on the  ANTHC campus and connected  by sky                                                                    
bridge to the Native Medical Center.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman  noted that 60  percent of  Alaska natives                                                                    
did  not attend  visits with  a primary  care provider,  but                                                                    
instead chose  emergency services.  He asked how  the Alaska                                                                    
natives  could  be convinced  to  choose  the facility  over                                                                    
emergency  hospital care.  He  wondered  how the  percentage                                                                    
could be lowered.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:37:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Streur  responded  that most  native  citizens                                                                    
would arrive at  the facility from Anchorage.  He noted that                                                                    
people coming  into Anchorage  may or  may not  end up  at a                                                                    
tribal  facility. The  intent of  the legislation  was early                                                                    
outreach  and  additional  services. The  prenatal  services                                                                    
would  bring  young  mothers  into  the  facility  for  care                                                                    
earlier  in their  pregnancies. The  prenatal service  would                                                                    
encourage deliveries within the Tribal Health system.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:39:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Neuman asked  about an  opportunity for  veteran                                                                    
services. Commissioner  Streur responded  that an  effort to                                                                    
increase  veteran  care  was  active  in  Bethel,  Nome  and                                                                    
Barrow.  He mentioned  outreach  in other  rural areas.  The                                                                    
outreach led to  over 100 veterans in the  Cordova area. Co-                                                                    
Chair Stoltze clarified the city of Cordova.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman hoped to get  additional help for veterans                                                                    
in his area.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:41:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman  asked if there  was a  Neonatal Intensive                                                                    
Care Unit (NICU) in the facility.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Streur replied  that the  facility did  have a                                                                    
NICU  with  eight  beds  as part  of  the  Alaska  pediatric                                                                    
partnership.  When the  eight beds  were full,  transfers to                                                                    
Providence  were made.  Co-Chair  Stoltze  assumed that  the                                                                    
prenatal care minimized the need  for the NICU. Commissioner                                                                    
Streur agreed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  pointed  to  a  centrally  located                                                                    
hospital  in Fairbanks.  He  understood  that the  Fairbanks                                                                    
Native Association had a facility  to house people receiving                                                                    
care at  the new facility.  He wondered if the  same bonding                                                                    
mechanism  could be  used for  other  facilities across  the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:43:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Streur  replied  that the  efforts  to  expand                                                                    
Medicaid type  services had  been proposed  in a  variety of                                                                    
mechanisms   since   2006.   He  advocated   for   continued                                                                    
development of the services.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  mentioned the Mat-Su Valley  Tribal Health                                                                    
facility.  He wondered  if benefits  from that  new facility                                                                    
were  observed.  Commissioner   Streur  responded  that  the                                                                    
facility  was not  yet  open. He  believed  that the  dental                                                                    
clinic was the only open portion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze believed  that the Mat-Su valley  had 10 or                                                                    
11 percent Alaska native population.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:46:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANGELA  RODELL,  DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER,  TREASURY  DIVISION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,  addressed SB  88, which  authorized                                                                    
the issuance of certificates  of participation in the amount                                                                    
of $35  million. The  funding would be  used to  finance the                                                                    
construction  of a  179 bed  facility at  the Alaska  Native                                                                    
Medical  Center   to  serve   patients  and   families.  The                                                                    
certificates of participation would  be used to finance five                                                                    
of the six  floors in the facility with  ANTHC financing the                                                                    
sixth floor. The  costs were capped at $35  million with any                                                                    
cost overruns born  by ANTHC. The ultimate  project goal was                                                                    
to realize  annual general fund  savings. The total  cost to                                                                    
the  state  was estimated  at  $42  million, which  included                                                                    
principal  and interest  to repay  the  certificates over  a                                                                    
period  of 15  years. The  payments were  subject to  annual                                                                    
appropriation.  The  annually  required  debt  service  cost                                                                    
approximately $3  million per year. An  assumption was built                                                                    
in  for  increased  rates.  She  noted  that  Department  of                                                                    
Administration  (DOA) would  enter  into  a lease  agreement                                                                    
with  ANTHC who  would  be responsible  for  the design  and                                                                    
building  of the  facility. Construction  invoices would  be                                                                    
submitted  to   the  department   with  the   assistance  of                                                                    
Department of  Health and Social Services  (DHSS). The state                                                                    
would  maintain the  tax exemption  on  the certificates  of                                                                    
participation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson  asked   if  the   money  would   be                                                                    
reimbursed to the  state. Ms. Rodell replied  that the state                                                                    
would fund the facility.  Medicaid savings would provide the                                                                    
funding. The facility was a crucial aspect of the savings.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holmes  pointed to  page 2, lines  24 through                                                                    
27. She stated  that the bill did  not mention participation                                                                    
by ANTHC. Ms. Rodell clarified  that the bill was related to                                                                    
the $35 million only. The  entire project cost exceeded that                                                                    
amount.  The  partnership  agreement was  that  ANTHC  would                                                                    
contribute to the construction of the total project.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holmes noted that  subsection (a) referred to                                                                    
the  project  as a  residential  housing  facility with  all                                                                    
remaining funding connected to  the investment income earned                                                                    
on  the   proceeds.  She  believed  the   language  did  not                                                                    
adequately detail the private partner's participation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:52:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rodell answered that she  was unsure about acknowledging                                                                    
the  private  partner's  participation  in  the  legislation                                                                    
because ANTHC  would be contributing  equity. Representative                                                                    
Holmes  was  supportive  of  the  project  and  would  speak                                                                    
further with Ms. Rodell about the issue.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Austerman asked if the  Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                    
would sell the bond. Ms. Rodell replied in the affirmative.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Austerman  asked  about the  federal  government's                                                                    
participation in the project.  Ms. Rodell answered that once                                                                    
the  state went  forward  with the  project, the  department                                                                    
would come  to the  legislature for  an annual  debt service                                                                    
request  regardless  of   federal  government  participation                                                                    
regarding Medicaid.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Austerman  asked for verification that  the project                                                                    
was dependent on the federal  government. Ms. Rodell replied                                                                    
in the affirmative.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  asked  if   the  state  would  derive                                                                    
benefit  once  the  facility  had  been  paid  off  and  was                                                                    
constructed.  Ms.  Rodell  replied   that  the  state  would                                                                    
continue to derive benefit due to the savings.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz clarified  that the  state shared  the                                                                    
cost of  Medicaid with the federal  government. She wondered                                                                    
if  the state  would derive  the financial  benefit for  the                                                                    
savings allowed by  the presence of the  facility. She asked                                                                    
if the  state's contribution  to Medicaid would  lessen. Ms.                                                                    
Rodell deferred the question to Commissioner Streur.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze noted that the  legislation would allow for                                                                    
medical  services  for  additional Alaskans  and  provide  a                                                                    
permanent accrual of benefit.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:57:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Austerman  pointed to the fiscal  note listing $2.8                                                                    
million per year paid by the state. Ms. Rodell concurred.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked what would happen  if the state                                                                    
did  not fund  the  $3 million  annual  payment. Ms.  Rodell                                                                    
replied that the state would be in default.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson asked if  the state was competing with                                                                    
the private sector. Ms. Rodell deferred the question.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:58:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VALERIE    DAVIDSON,    SENIOR     DIRECTOR,    LEGAL    AND                                                                    
INTERGOVERNMENTAL  AFFAIRS,  ALASKA   NATIVE  TRIBAL  HEALTH                                                                    
CONSORTIUM  (ANTHC), spoke  in support  of the  legislation.                                                                    
She  stated that  expanding patient  housing would  allow an                                                                    
expansion  of services  at ANTHC.  She provided  examples of                                                                    
patients  that would  benefit from  the facility.  The first                                                                    
story pertained  to a  pregnant woman  from a  small village                                                                    
who  experienced  complications  and   needed  to  be  in  a                                                                    
hospital  but  was  unfamiliar  with  the  use  of  Medicaid                                                                    
vouchers.  She mentioned  her own  personal experience.  She                                                                    
elaborated on  the story.  She stated  that patients  had to                                                                    
learn  navigation of  a whole  new world  in Anchorage  when                                                                    
they were  from a village.  She provided information  on the                                                                    
proposed  facility. She  explained  how a  patient would  be                                                                    
treated  in the  new  facility. She  discussed the  services                                                                    
provided  at the  facility including  the cafeteria,  shared                                                                    
kitchen and housing.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:04:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Davidson continued  to discuss  how the  facility would                                                                    
help various patients of all  ages. She furthered that ANTHC                                                                    
was  the  highest level  trauma  center  in the  state.  The                                                                    
project allowed  the state to  realize an annual  savings of                                                                    
$8.8  million. The  state's required  contribution would  be                                                                    
$2.8 to  $2.9 million annually.  She spoke to  the necessary                                                                    
housing component. She thanked the committee for its time.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holmes  asked if  the facility  would enhance                                                                    
the   ability  for   telemedicine  services.   Ms.  Davidson                                                                    
answered that  ANTHC had a program  for telemedicine service                                                                    
which allowed savings in ear,  nose and throat services. Her                                                                    
organization had  documented the  travel savings  because of                                                                    
the telemedicine services. She  stated that the organization                                                                    
explored expansion of telecardiology services.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holmes discussed support  for the benefits of                                                                    
telemedicine services.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze asked  ANTHC was  under the  management of                                                                    
the  Southcentral umbrella.  Ms. Davidson  replied that  the                                                                    
Southcentral foundation  and ANTHC joint-managed  the Alaska                                                                    
Native Medical center.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   remarked  about  the   partnership.  Ms.                                                                    
Davidson commented on the many benefits of the partnership.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  asked about the facility  in Wasilla known                                                                    
as Benteh Nuutah. He wondered about its progress.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson replied  that once a facility was  able to bill                                                                    
services that  were available by  a tribal  health facility,                                                                    
the state immediately saw savings.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:10:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  hoped that there  was a  decreasing number                                                                    
of  Alaskans  that  would  require  Medicaid  because  of  a                                                                    
thriving economy.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  asked  about the  safety  aspect  of                                                                    
bringing  patients in  from villages.  Ms. Davidson  replied                                                                    
that  the consortium  had heard  stories about  people being                                                                    
taken advantage  of in cab  rides to the ANMC.  She provided                                                                    
other  stories  about patients  who  did  not speak  English                                                                    
well. The housing  facility goal was to provide  a home away                                                                    
from  home.  She shared  a  personal  story related  to  her                                                                    
childhood. She furthered that  Alaska Native families wanted                                                                    
what all  families wanted. She  stated that when  there were                                                                    
opportunities  to  help the  lives  of  many people  it  was                                                                    
important to seize them.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze inferred that  the bill financed a facility                                                                    
with  great   opportunities  for  savings,   which  included                                                                    
facilitated transportation for  rural patients. Ms. Davidson                                                                    
replied  in the  affirmative.  The  transportation from  the                                                                    
housing to the airport would be provided.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:16:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked if  Medicaid eligibility  was a                                                                    
patient requirement.  Ms. Davidson replied that  the housing                                                                    
facility  would be  available to  all eligible  individuals.                                                                    
Co-Chair Stoltze expounded  that Medicaid patients utilizing                                                                    
the  facility  would  benefit state  savings.  Ms.  Davidson                                                                    
concurred.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB  88  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
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